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blast off

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on another episode of hero paranormal

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podcast broadcasting from the base at la

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madre mountain just south of area 51 and

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if you've been paying attention at all

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this location in particular has been

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seeing a lot of ufo activity online

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there's been a lot of reports

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locals filming it uh just below la madre

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mountain one particular local that lives

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near me is steve barone you can google

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some of his videos

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my name is ryan

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the original

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overseer of the airwaves bringing you an

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epic episode tonight

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when analyzing high strangeness

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go as far

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that name may sound familiar

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besides being the lead investigator on

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the sci-fi paranormal investigative

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cable show ghost hunters international

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fitzgerald can

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usually be found on covert expeditions

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around the globe whether they're filming

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him or not

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i met barry in the uintah basin of utah

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of all places after he had flown across

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the atlantic

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and uh this was all to stay investigate

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and get real about high strangeness

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there in the uintah basin he stayed at

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spacewolf research for some time and

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you know he is um well bottom line

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i remain convinced of his abilities

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it comes as no surprise he has had so

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much to offer over the years not only

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is barry versed in several languages

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including but not limited to french

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latin german romanian and of course

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please

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check out what he's got going on and

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support barry fitzgerald at his website

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although he is

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of help and thanks are definitely due

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for his efforts on

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zoharstargate.com as well we'll get into

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that

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and i hope a whole lot more this new

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book of berries is uh

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well it's amazing

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and to read you an excerpt

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over the millennia

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we have relied on mystics shamans and

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priests to explain

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what awaits us in the next life

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but what if it's all an illusion

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what really lurks behind the veil

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separating this world from the next

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might this other world be something real

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and tangible and literally

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not of this earth in other words

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might what we currently define as

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extraterrestrials perform

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what if the afterlife is an illusion

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created by the beings that exist within

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that realm

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the deceptions of god and men offered

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an alternative viewpoint using a

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hypothesis based on insights gleaned

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from ancient manuscripts and teachings

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that our ancestors left behind you

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really got to check this book out

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the deception of gods and men

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it's been way way too long

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barry fitzgerald welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast

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thank you ryan indeed it has been too

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long and and i always i always welcome

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the meetup of old friends and it's great

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it's great to be able to speak to you

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well we have great reason to speak this

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time we should have

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this is a great opportunity i should say

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and that's your new book the deception

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of gods and men i mean this is

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this is awesome

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thank you yes it's uh it just came out

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um and uh it was the official release

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date was the first of march

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um so uh things things seem to be going

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okay with that and uh and while that's

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um and uh and the the third edition of

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the band she is also out at the end of

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the month i'm focusing my efforts now on

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the next book the fruit of the gods but

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more on that later

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and let's get to the meat of the matter

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this book shines a spotlight on well

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these these beings that slip through the

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veil from their world to ours and

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how semantics and what people call them

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may have something

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to do with what they appear to be is

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that correct or am i kind of going out

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the reason the the real reason that that

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i really wanted to delve into this

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particular subject matter

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strip away the mask

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that seems to be utilized by this

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particular phenomena and it was

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the thread of research seems to weave

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when we follow the identity of the mask

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we end up at a brick wall we're not

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getting anywhere

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up following the phenomena in which they

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i was able to push the boundaries of

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into into our history and i was able to

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to really depend

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um on on what our ancestors had also

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encountered and what experiences they

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what what this actually was

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um and and that of course has led to

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some very very interesting hypothesis um

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that uh that these things are not what

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well you know and this makes sense to me

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getting to the fundamentals of the

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semantics um as you know

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congruences between a lot of these dark

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adepts regardless of cultures and where

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these these entities seem to appear

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whether it's the middle east whether

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it's europe whether it's north america

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similar that they didn't have internet

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transversing these messages yet the

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crystal clear message is a lot of the

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same candle work as well as other uh

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dark magic the of those who follow these

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entities but the entities themselves

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whatever seems to be the flavor of the

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i was able to to interact um and have

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with the likes of uh of of the the

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to their folklore and about the beings

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within the folklore and how they

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interacted with these things and how

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those things interacted with them

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and it soon became clear when speaking

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that what they were talking about i

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could clearly take and identify from an

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average standpoint on our little island

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in the atlantic ocean and i think it was

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that but how is this possible this is

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or how did their stories get to here

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um you know it it was a it was a very

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curious thing to start to break into and

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and see this common commonality between

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and and i find that that those rabbit

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and and investigate them slowly

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and uh and many of those were put in

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place i suspect um to to try and inhibit

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our our investigation initially

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but that soon that soon started clear

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and uh and we really started to to nail

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um and especially with the use of of our

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modern technology it really helped a lot

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to try and understand this phenomenon

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that that ancestry that i speak about

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because this is an area where

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we are kind of going below the narrative

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path of the puppet masters whose

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promises of power and wealth conceal the

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bones of the innocent and this is kind

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of how it's always gone but yet

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there are some telltale signs isn't that

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there are yes and and you know this is

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this is something that was very

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interesting for us to spot initially

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was this was this initial story

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that uh um for instance it was one side

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the story more or less fell into place

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that it was one side versus another side

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um and they were of the same

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the same coin

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these things ended up going to battle

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with each other humanity was caught in

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the middle blah blah blah blah

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the result of this particular story is

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that it has migrated through time

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and and although the although the the

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the story the principles of the story

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and and this broken record

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kept being played time and time and time

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that i have to say that was that was

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infuriating for for me to see

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that that this is something that we have

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fallen for continually

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um and i don't know what it is about

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humanity but why we can't

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suddenly identify this and say on your

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we're not we're not going down this

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it's so very true and not only is it

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true that there is

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seemingly a coherent group of

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individuals that are

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controlling creating and possibly

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contributing to the narrative

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but they're also hiding some

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key principle features i think of that

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they are um and when you start looking

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at

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within within society about how power um

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comes about

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then you tend to find their tentacles

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not too far away

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um and to understand that

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initially that that ancient aspect we we

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have to understand that there were

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places on this planet

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where people went to where were the

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elites the kings the priests

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where they went to

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to initially make contact with these

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things beyond

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and i say things and the reason ryan i i

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prefer not to give these a designation

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is because a lot of them are are

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you know once once we use them today

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we've already got those those uh those

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ideas of what they look like and things

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like that and i prefer not to give them

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an identity per se

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and because those are already pre-loaded

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so i use i use terms such as they

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them um whatever the case may be um but

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our

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rulers ended up going to these places

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where the veils were thin

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and they they communicated

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and by that verse of communicating

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they they were given wisdom

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and knowledge was shared

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and and imbued upon our rulers

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when we go back and we look at we don't

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have to go that far back and look at the

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greek mythology of around um i think is

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around 2600 bc

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and we have we have these places of

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oracle

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where where these people came to and and

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they met the oracle

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um who was the go-between

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between us and them

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and the knowledge was was was imbued

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across now there were two several types

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um usually within this contact one

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was a type physically that looked like

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what we would associate as pan

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within the within the the uh

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within the the greek um folklore

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the the god of the the on our wilderness

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but what i was interested in

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was the other one

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because these were known as the word

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and they

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were the ones that i really wanted to

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put the thumb screws on and screw down

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because they were the ones that viewed

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the wisdom

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to our leaders and our our political

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leaders

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on how to govern us

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as a people

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how we were to be governed

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and

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these things tended to come at a price

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this wisdom tends to come at a price and

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of course the payment for uh um for for

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for following such wisdom

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of course was power

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greed

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um and uh and all the the negative

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connotations the achilles heel of the

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hume of the human race and so these

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negative traits would have been would

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have been really um

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um harnessed

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from that perspective now

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the it was interesting to see when when

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we when we cross over these places of

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oracle these places where the the worlds

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were thin

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when we crossed that over into into our

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archaeology into our into our

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technological age

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that's whenever we started to see this

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pattern

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start to develop

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now initially the pattern was was

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was pretty typical and in fact um the

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the ranch next door to yours

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is is very very similar there where we

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see this huge positive magnetic anomaly

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and within those positive magnetic

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anomalies that we identify using the

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satellite technology

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we're able to see that that phenomena

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such as the poltergeist phenomena

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appears within the paranormal you've got

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ufos that appear you've got abductions

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you've got mutilations and and

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the list goes on and on and on that's

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what we tend to see within these

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particular areas

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now those in themselves

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although um quite

401
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quite bad

402
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in their own right

403
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what we

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feel to recognize in the beginning

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was the other side of the coin

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and that in itself would have been the

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negative magnetic anomalies

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and

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those

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really started to come into their own

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when when we ended up going back and

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delving into the negative magnetic

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anomalies to see what the connection was

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there because within

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by dabbling into that we began to see

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the payment

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that was possibly um um asked

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for by these things from beyond

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and the payment was never good

420
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and as you've mentioned there's always

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an exchange uh some of the brightest

422
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minds i'm just you know from a research

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perspective i've seen some of the

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brightest minds come to the same

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00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:38,960
belief system uh analysis of research

426
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:41,360
and data has provided them with

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this exchange that whenever this takes

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place we give something of ourselves

429
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when we witness these displays and

430
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that's frightening isn't it

431
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it it really is um

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and

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you know initially whenever i was

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whenever i was

435
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looking at the magnetic anomalies

436
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both

437
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steve mira

438
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a research friend of mine

439
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from from zohar

440
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and myself we ended up in in california

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and there was an event there that we

442
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were attending we were speaking at now

443
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the people outside there were sitting in

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circle

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and uh

446
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it was it was after the event was over

447
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and very much like stephen greer's work

448
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and

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they were looking into the sky

450
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and uh and seeing these various little

451
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um lights that were appearing um many of

452
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them of course were satellites and

453
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things like that but

454
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um this is where it starts to get

455
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troublesome

456
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because

457
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when we now start looking at at the way

458
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that we are communicating with these

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things

460
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they

461
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i'm talking about the true phenomena

462
00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:54,840
i have to make a separation here between

463
00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:00,080
man-made um technology man-made drones

464
00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:01,919
man-made craft

465
00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:02,960
that

466
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:06,400
military institutions um and weapon

467
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specialists are very very keen at making

468
00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:10,799
we have to make a separation between

469
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man-made and the original

470
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now for the original

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there when when we're referring to them

472
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and they

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the way that we brought them forward was

474
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to conjure

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we

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and that in itself is an esoteric

477
00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:32,640
practice

478
00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:34,799
now call it what you want

479
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:36,840
it's an esoteric

480
00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:39,520
practice and that has to be identified

481
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as that

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the very the

483
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the moment that we say that we pick up a

484
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voice recorder within a haunted house

485
00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:49,679
and we we we we switch it on we say is

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there anyone there

487
00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:54,480
we have just gone through an esoteric

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practice to make contact with them

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now when you have a bigger

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group

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and we tend to see that within the use

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of a ouija board you you have you have

493
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more people around it you have the

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intent is greater

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but the esoteric practice remains the

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same

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for these things to come through in all

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their identities whether it be fairy

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whether it be gin whether it be grey

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aliens they all are coming through on an

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esoteric level

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and that we have to recognize

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and because we're not only seeing the

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grays for instance

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in

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science rooms of old europe

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so why is a gray appearing in a seance

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those questions need to be asked and

509
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unfortunately um a lot it's it's it's

510
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one of those inconvenient questions

511
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that

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much the same as

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back

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10 years ago and 20 years ago it it was

515
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always frowned upon when you brought a

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report forward about a ufo on a bigfoot

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at the same time

518
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was an inconvenient question and

519
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inconvenient um data that that was more

520
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or less thrown to the side now we're

521
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starting to change we're starting to

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accept

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this and starting to see that yes there

524
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is

525
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um some strange type of connection

526
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between the paranormal fields and the

527
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research fields

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um but

529
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:43,039
yeah i've completely went off course

530
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,480
they're forgotten

531
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,240
no you're right you're right on course

532
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:48,559
man because that's my next question was

533
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,360
going towards these magnetic anomalies

534
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,360
and the particular phenomena that has

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00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:55,600
appeared time and time again in these

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areas like we were discussing

537
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,919
with beings that you've mentioned in

538
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,360
your book

539
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:03,280
have they've been historically

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00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:06,400
identified as quote unquote radiating a

541
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light

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or e-l can we get into that that's just

543
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:12,480
fascinating for me yeah

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um

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you know

546
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,880
the the new book that i'm working on i

547
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was i was going through some of the

548
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uniform texts and some of the details

549
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:22,159
from there

550
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and

551
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,720
there is

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with within the the babylonian texts

553
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:31,039
there is mention of these gods

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that sean

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00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:34,240
and i'm not talking about the anunnaki

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or anything like that because the

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00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:36,799
anunnaki is something completely

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00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,600
different i'm talking about these beings

559
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:41,039
that appeared

560
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and they were known to wear a garment

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00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:46,159
that exuded

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00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,440
this light

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00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,360
and awe

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and

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00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,039
but the strange thing was that that for

566
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these people who witnessed these shining

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00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:56,640
ones

568
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:59,919
it was also a scary experience

569
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,919
and and you know i'll get back to that

570
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,919
scary experience in a moment because

571
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:05,360
it's something we need to understand

572
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,000
from a biological context about what our

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00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:11,120
bodies are trying to tell us in those

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moments

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but

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these uh these beings

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00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,440
they not only did they did they wear

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00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,600
this particular garment they also

579
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produce this other

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element

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which when translated

582
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,880
means it makes your skin crawl

583
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:32,880
oh my gosh

584
00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:35,919
this was happening and babylon for god's

585
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,279
sake you know 4 000 5000 bc

586
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:43,760
it's the same phenomena just a different

587
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:44,720
mask

588
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:47,440
and so when we start moving this forward

589
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:50,240
and we start looking into into these

590
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:52,720
shining ones and where they're appearing

591
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,080
and what they're delivering and

592
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:58,559
i i ended up starting to look at because

593
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,880
of the the the midigori

594
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:03,600
um phenomena which was happening over in

595
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:05,200
eastern europe

596
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:07,360
where every tuesday

597
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,159
this uh this being would appear and

598
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:12,480
deliver messages but that in itself is

599
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:14,000
very irregular

600
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:17,279
and i was i was very very very very

601
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,880
suspicious of this particular type of

602
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,640
behavior

603
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:21,679
and

604
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,640
i needed to get to the core

605
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,440
of the of the appearance and and this is

606
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:29,600
where we tend to find

607
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:32,000
um valuable information it's in the

608
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:33,360
initial

609
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:34,799
10 minutes

610
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:38,240
of of of this being appearing

611
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,760
because

612
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,440
what was very important is that the

613
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:44,159
children that saw the being

614
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:45,760
were frightened

615
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:48,080
to a point where they stopped they were

616
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,200
frozen

617
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:51,200
to the ground

618
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:54,159
that speaks volumes

619
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:55,919
the reason that i say that is because

620
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:58,080
it's our our body

621
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:01,600
has a unique ability um

622
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,200
some people will call it um um

623
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,919
oh i forget the name um now

624
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,919
oh the flight or flight phenomenon

625
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:12,000
fighter flight yes um

626
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:14,000
that particular fight or flight delivers

627
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:15,520
the information

628
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:18,480
and of the nature of what we are

629
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:20,720
witnessing and that nature can come in

630
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,640
many form or that that appearance can

631
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:24,720
come in many forms it can be a child it

632
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,039
can be an animal it can be a person and

633
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:29,200
they could be smiling at us but if our

634
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:30,640
fight or flight

635
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:34,159
is kicking in that is a signal

636
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,080
from our from our part of our uh

637
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,520
soul makeup to tell us get the hell out

638
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,279
of here

639
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:44,960
and but

640
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,679
after a period of time has elapsed

641
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,000
they can link into her conscious that

642
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:52,000
that conscious aspect

643
00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,200
and shut off the fight or flight

644
00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:57,679
and and that that can be a very very

645
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,039
damaging um aspect and this fight or

646
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,360
flight giving back to to

647
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:06,080
to what steve and i had witnessed in in

648
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,559
california we knew that what where we

649
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,720
needed to be was in one of the strong

650
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,679
magnetic anomalies uh positive anomalies

651
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:15,520
and which was seven miles in the high

652
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,559
desert

653
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,720
uh from the hotel now we ended up going

654
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:21,200
there we took three carloads to the

655
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:22,400
place

656
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:23,279
and

657
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,720
you know they were they were getting

658
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:29,120
ready it was like uh it was like a a

659
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,960
japanese tourist spot

660
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,919
and

661
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,600
i had to tell them to put the cameras

662
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,080
away because this phenomena is

663
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:39,600
in its truest sense does not like

664
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:42,640
the recording equipment or the audio

665
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:45,760
recording or uh visual recording and the

666
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,480
reason for that and

667
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:50,159
looking at that information from jack

668
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,120
valet and things like that

669
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:53,279
cross-referencing

670
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:54,880
it seems that the camera itself has the

671
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:57,840
ability to capture what is really there

672
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,120
that defies what we're seeing

673
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,960
and and when we when we interview

674
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:04,080
witnesses

675
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,919
and to the ufo phenomena you have the

676
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:08,240
witness effect in which

677
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,760
say there's three witnesses or four

678
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,679
witnesses four of them will see

679
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,159
something completely different

680
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,480
at the same time

681
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:17,919
so this in itself

682
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:21,120
um really connects back this conscious

683
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:22,159
hook

684
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:26,240
brain that's it there's quite a there's

685
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:28,080
quite a quantum entanglement that takes

686
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:31,279
place in indeed indeed yes but the the

687
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:32,880
camera itself

688
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,840
will display what what is there so i had

689
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:37,279
to ask the people to put the cameras

690
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,159
away

691
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,640
the moment the last camera went the hair

692
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,320
stood on the back of my neck now there

693
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,559
was an indication to me

694
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:47,200
that this was not good

695
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,480
and but

696
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,039
i wanted them to see as well

697
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,520
and i told them they're here

698
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:55,919
now just as that was

699
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:58,880
was uh shared suddenly this thing

700
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:01,039
appeared over the cars boom boom boom

701
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:02,640
boom there's this

702
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:05,120
flashing light it was like a welder's

703
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,919
flash over the top of the vehicles

704
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,520
and the communication went on for about

705
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,080
90 seconds and then was gone

706
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,240
and the moment that was over i told the

707
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:16,159
people to get back into the cars because

708
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:17,279
we're leaving

709
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,120
and there was some objection

710
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,120
to that because in fact one of the

711
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:23,120
people i remember saying but but you

712
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:24,720
know we hear tell of this happening all

713
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,880
the time and now we're here why are we

714
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:28,320
going so soon

715
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,279
and

716
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,919
i said because we have to

717
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,480
and when we go back into the cars they

718
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:37,440
all left and and i on the drive back i

719
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:39,039
was saying to her

720
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,919
now

721
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:42,240
tell me when you saw this

722
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:44,799
what did you feel and she said it was

723
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,080
absolutely amazing to see this this you

724
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:50,080
know as i said people have have

725
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:51,520
mentioned this before i've never seen it

726
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,320
for myself and i got to see it it was it

727
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,919
was amazing i'm not going to swear

728
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:57,440
because that's what she was doing a lot

729
00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:00,320
of um but she was caught up in in the

730
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,760
moment

731
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,679
and i said okay can i ask

732
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:05,120
did the hair rise in the back of your

733
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:06,559
neck did it rise in your arms and

734
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:09,039
everything else and says yes i said that

735
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,480
was your fight or flight it was telling

736
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,320
you to leave

737
00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,720
because that flashing light was the

738
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:16,159
illusion

739
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:19,440
those things were already on the ground

740
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,559
that's why we had to leave

741
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:23,520
um

742
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:24,559
so

743
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:27,360
that was that was a an experience for

744
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,399
them

745
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,480
um and uh you know speaking of other

746
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:32,720
people who who for instance have have

747
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,440
had encounters with um a paranormal

748
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:37,520
nature say with ghosts in fact i just

749
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:40,480
spoke to a guy um several days ago

750
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,360
and he was a security officer um in this

751
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,799
in this building

752
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,320
and uh

753
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,240
and he turned a corner and there was

754
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,559
this person standing in the middle of

755
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:52,640
the night putting coins into a cigarette

756
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,159
machine and now

757
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,080
he says it wasn't the appearance of the

758
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,240
guy suddenly there he said it was the

759
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,240
way it made him feel that frightened him

760
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,159
half to death

761
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:05,840
that's the key

762
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:08,559
the key as to the illusion the illusion

763
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:11,440
is what you see cannot be depended on

764
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,640
it's how you feel the situation we must

765
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:16,640
that is how we must steer this

766
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:18,880
phenomenon

767
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:19,840
and

768
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:22,000
that steering mechanism within a modern

769
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,320
age can be interfered with

770
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,760
refined sugar

771
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:27,279
can shut down the fight-or-flight

772
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:28,720
process

773
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,880
and and that is a very dangerous

774
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,640
situation to be in

775
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,440
we we have groups that meet up um for

776
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:37,279
instance in fast food restaurants before

777
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,480
they head off

778
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,559
to a to a location

779
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,720
and to see what the phenomenon is and

780
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,159
and what they experience and things like

781
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:46,480
that by going there and consuming the

782
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,279
refined sugar in those various ways

783
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,039
they're actually blinding their own

784
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,120
bodies

785
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:55,120
they don't know

786
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,880
what is coming through and what can be

787
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,960
dependent upon and everything else and

788
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,120
this is something that i reiterate to

789
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,440
paranormal investigating groups to make

790
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,039
sure

791
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,159
that you question what is coming through

792
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:10,080
do not accept the first thing that comes

793
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,120
along

794
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,279
put a filter on it yeah because why not

795
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,840
filter on it absolutely absolutely

796
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:17,600
because today we live in a society where

797
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,000
we have to have everything fast

798
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,799
and we have we have um cell phones that

799
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:24,960
that has connects us to the internet we

800
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,480
have all the information there we have

801
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:28,080
to have it fast

802
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:31,919
with this phenomena we need to slow down

803
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,720
we need to make sure that it is what it

804
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,240
says it is

805
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,039
um and more times than not

806
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:41,279
it there is a high level of deception

807
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:45,750
and i kind of want to follow some of

808
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:49,440
these breadcrumbs down the alleyway of

809
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:52,080
mystics shamans secret societies for

810
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:53,840
years

811
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,159
these even priests

812
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,320
have uh

813
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,799
talked about basically conjuring these

814
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:02,559
lights of sorts

815
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:05,679
and it seems it you know it with the

816
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,000
shamans and the mystics

817
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,080
something uh

818
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:12,159
i i feel that maybe i've

819
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,760
trampled a little bit into this um

820
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:18,000
spoiled garden because

821
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:19,679
something we became

822
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:21,919
well a little bit began delving into

823
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,320
from a research perspective is the use

824
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:26,880
of a quote-unquote god helmet

825
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:29,679
which is a device um and a fellow

826
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:31,760
researcher began using what's called a

827
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:33,919
quote-unquote angel lamp

828
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,159
uh both both of these technologies are

829
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:39,600
supposed to mimic the dmt experience and

830
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,559
back to the shamans and mystics and in

831
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:44,480
your book as well

832
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:46,720
it seems that uh if it's okay if i read

833
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:49,519
a quick section here

834
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:52,640
during the 1990s dr rick straussman a

835
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,679
psychiatric specialist

836
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:57,840
carried out let me make sure i got this

837
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,279
right yeah a series of tests on dmt and

838
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,360
found that in the right quantities it

839
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:06,240
produced feelings of euphoria anxiety

840
00:33:09,269 --> 00:33:07,440
and fear

841
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,279
much of what you're talking about and in

842
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,399
smaller doses it produced auditory

843
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:15,360
hallucinations but in higher doses it

844
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:18,159
produced other phenomena a large

845
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,000
majority of participants in the study

846
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:22,080
began to report a state or feeling that

847
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,799
they were able to communicate with other

848
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,799
intelligent life forms

849
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:28,240
now

850
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:30,000
during these high-dose sessions it was

851
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,000
reported that the experimenters met with

852
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:33,840
another intelligence with many

853
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:37,519
describing a super intelligence now

854
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:39,200
this is the frightening part we're

855
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:41,440
dealing with something that is most

856
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:44,799
likely much more intelligent from

857
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,070
there there is that but also with the

858
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,720
intelligence comes a level of fear and

859
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:54,960
and whenever i talk about the fear

860
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:57,200
it's it's like nothing we can experience

861
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:01,039
on on this side the fear is is much more

862
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:02,240
magn

863
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:06,559
um on the on the other side for me to

864
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:09,200
stand on one side of the doorway here in

865
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,399
ireland

866
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:12,159
and i can tell you

867
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:13,839
um ryan that

868
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:17,119
it was it was a fear level that i have

869
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:19,119
never ever experienced or want to

870
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,040
experience again

871
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:23,599
and it was it was something that was

872
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,639
just beyond and i i said to to carmich

873
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,879
my my co-author at the time

874
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,960
um on legend seekers i said karmic if i

875
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,800
ever come across that again i'm retiring

876
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:34,399
and i don't want to be involved with

877
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:35,760
that again

878
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:38,560
and but that that was in itself one of

879
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:42,240
those doorways to them

880
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:46,320
and and now we're starting to understand

881
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,520
um how these doorways were activated

882
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:52,480
what was being used as a mixture of

883
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:54,399
from a neolithic standpoint as a mixture

884
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,640
of of of sunlight vibration and timing

885
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,960
timing is everything when it comes to

886
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:02,720
this

887
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:05,280
and so that was that was very very

888
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,400
important for us for us to learn and now

889
00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:10,800
whenever you talk about

890
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:13,839
about this this phenomena and in its

891
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:16,960
changing ways and the esoteric value

892
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:19,680
and i find that we can also lose

893
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,400
touch of that esoteric value

894
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:24,640
because we keep bloody well changing the

895
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,520
names to the phenomena instead of

896
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,200
leaving things alone

897
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,520
and we reinvented to make it something

898
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,079
new to make it something real wow this

899
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,320
sounds really interesting

900
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:37,760
um

901
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:40,320
but the likes of of standing

902
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:42,839
in in a circle

903
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:45,599
um wishing

904
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:48,400
that you want to see

905
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:49,760
a craft

906
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:50,960
a creature

907
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:54,480
um a flashy light in the sky

908
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,880
in itself when when you focus that

909
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,640
you're directing that i suppose in the

910
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,480
modern text you're directing that to the

911
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,440
universe that thought process is put

912
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:05,119
into your will and you're you're sending

913
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,560
that to the universe

914
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:08,560
now ten years ago there was a book

915
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:10,800
brought out called the secret

916
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,680
and if not maybe even more maybe even 20

917
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:14,800
years ago

918
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,920
and you know this big secret that you

919
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,000
you put your wishes and your intent out

920
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:22,000
to the universe and you reap

921
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:25,440
what you what you put out

922
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:27,440
and again this is this is the problem

923
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:29,440
that we have when we start re-labeling

924
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,920
things because two thousand years ago

925
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,280
two thousand

926
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:35,839
years ago that particular process by the

927
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,040
druids was known as grinholt

928
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:41,520
it's the same the same

929
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:44,240
thing the very very same thing 2 000

930
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:47,920
years ago it was an esoteric practice

931
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:49,760
and so you know

932
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,240
esotericism um is

933
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,480
there's a lot of it within our within

934
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,480
our modern daily lives

935
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,480
and and we go about our lives and we're

936
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,400
oblivious to it

937
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,800
but there is a huge amount of there

938
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:04,640
and uh

939
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:07,359
you know i it was strange after coming

940
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:09,920
from from from your ranch

941
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,560
um and and mulling things over for for

942
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:14,640
the by the time i get back to ireland we

943
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,240
were just entering into entering into uh

944
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,640
the whole pandemic thing and

945
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:22,240
then shortly after that we were locked

946
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:25,280
down but it gave me enough time to

947
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,480
to look over and and think about what i

948
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:30,960
had experienced and seen and felt

949
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:31,839
um

950
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:34,320
on the edges of the ranch and to see

951
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:35,280
that

952
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:42,480
ancestral

953
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,920
um connection

954
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,240
to the the ranch and what was going on

955
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,240
in the ranch for this this idea for

956
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:50,400
instance of of looking at

957
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:51,280
at

958
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:52,560
gold

959
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:55,920
that was uh that was hidden in the

960
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,599
ground or in the mountains

961
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,359
um

962
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:01,119
when when we when we look at this

963
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,720
particular aspect

964
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,040
from from and i'm talking about

965
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:07,920
2500 years ago

966
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:10,160
for for the for the celts that came to

967
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,839
this island

968
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:12,960
we

969
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:18,000
serpentine creatures that that that

970
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,040
guarded

971
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:21,839
the uh the giants or the uh the huge

972
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:23,839
amounts of of of

973
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:24,960
silver and

974
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,320
and gold and everything else so these uh

975
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:30,079
these creatures of course they were

976
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:32,480
responsible for for keeping that safe

977
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:33,520
now

978
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:36,560
moving forward and into the middle age

979
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:37,599
the

980
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,320
outward appearance of that giant serpent

981
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:43,280
which in itself was called pitched

982
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,560
um

983
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,720
that that changed

984
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,200
into into what we would call today and

985
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:51,520
recognize as a dragon

986
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,480
um

987
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:54,240
and and of course

988
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,680
when when we look at the movies and

989
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:57,119
things like that you know you've got

990
00:39:03,430 --> 00:38:58,560
you've got uh

991
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:03,440
the underworld and this giant dragon

992
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,720
guarding the treasure and everything

993
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,520
else

994
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:07,040
and uh

995
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:09,440
so you you've got all that but to the to

996
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:11,760
the ancient celts they didn't recognize

997
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,079
they wouldn't recognize what we see as a

998
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,839
dragon but

999
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:18,640
let's not get lost in that particular um

1000
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,359
appearance because isn't it strange

1001
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,240
that in the ranch next door to yours

1002
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:26,320
who do they have guarding the ranch with

1003
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,880
a weapon

1004
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:30,800
what's his name

1005
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:32,800
dragon dragon

1006
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:35,920
the symbology to it is huge and when i

1007
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:38,000
started to go back and started hunting

1008
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:40,079
my way down through

1009
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,040
um

1010
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,760
the history of that particular area to

1011
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:45,280
see the wealth

1012
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,839
that is still buried in that place

1013
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:48,720
um

1014
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:51,760
it is absolutely massive

1015
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,400
and uh and especially whenever i went

1016
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,200
back to the the 1850s

1017
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,920
um when when the curse of the skinwalker

1018
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:01,440
came around

1019
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:04,319
that of course came at the same time

1020
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,839
when we were starting to drop down huge

1021
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:09,680
um um

1022
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:11,760
wells for oil

1023
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:14,560
and so that tied in with the same the

1024
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:15,440
the

1025
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,960
appearance whenever we started going

1026
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:20,400
into the ground

1027
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:23,599
um and and i saw that as very very

1028
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,800
unusual

1029
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,400
um but

1030
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,400
yeah and things of course started to get

1031
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:30,319
much worse when when we moved forward

1032
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:32,800
into 1994-96

1033
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,560
and and we see that that utah of course

1034
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,880
was the 15th largest oil and gas

1035
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,800
producer in the usa

1036
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,920
um

1037
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:42,720
and

1038
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,960
took over the ranch

1039
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:48,240
and so

1040
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,599
you know there was all there's there's

1041
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:51,599
been this connection with with the

1042
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:52,560
wealth

1043
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,520
of the land and something that protects

1044
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,119
it

1045
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,920
and the more the more we start to push

1046
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,240
the more they start to push

1047
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:04,079
and and

1048
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,599
you know it seemed to me it was very

1049
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:07,680
very clear and what was possibly going

1050
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:08,720
on there

1051
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,960
but anyway that's another here there um

1052
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,480
because uh

1053
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,160
i think it's important though it is

1054
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:18,240
important the symbology is important a

1055
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,359
lot of these

1056
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,359
these small nuances that a lot of people

1057
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,960
overlook it might be a ripple effect

1058
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,319
much like you mentioned in your book

1059
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,240
with these things but there's always a

1060
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:29,200
telltale sign it seems

1061
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:30,319
there is

1062
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,319
there definitely is and you know when

1063
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,480
when we look at at

1064
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:36,079
some of the

1065
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,000
responsible or are

1066
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,240
who are involved with with the ratchet

1067
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:44,240
of the menace you know when when we keep

1068
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,440
in mind the possible connection to gold

1069
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,359
we find that that

1070
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:52,400
one particular scientist there um is was

1071
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:55,680
connected with uh with xrf was which was

1072
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:58,319
an x-ray fluorescence

1073
00:42:06,630 --> 00:41:59,200
um

1074
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,640
it was devised

1075
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:08,400
to try and detect

1076
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:09,440
um

1077
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,240
heavy metals in the ground

1078
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:14,800
like gold and silver

1079
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,680
so when when the when the uh the people

1080
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,119
on the show were told there looks like

1081
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:22,240
there's something metal underground well

1082
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,359
um

1083
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:25,200
i'll leave it at that

1084
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,480
yes

1085
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,960
and it's important also to note i think

1086
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,880
it is important to note

1087
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,880
that there is

1088
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:34,560
a lot of people think that there's no

1089
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,560
harm that can be done here

1090
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,960
but there is a great deal of harm and

1091
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,720
that's why a lot of these properties

1092
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:42,400
have security

1093
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:45,920
and as a result a lot of people uh

1094
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,319
are starting to um

1095
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:50,720
well acknowledge this but however it

1096
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,119
seems like civilization in general as

1097
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,040
you mentioned before the semantics

1098
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,359
involved what used to be called the

1099
00:43:02,470 --> 00:42:59,760
ancient ones is now being called and i'm

1100
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,480
guilty of this uh ancient artificial

1101
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,200
intelligence or extraterrestrial ancient

1102
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:07,440
artificial intelligence it's almost as

1103
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:10,839
if you just keep re-phrasing the same

1104
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,000
thing and by doing that you allow it a

1105
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,480
longer lifespan and it reminds me of the

1106
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,000
very the very

1107
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,000
popularized quote

1108
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,040
the best trick the devil ever pulled was

1109
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:25,520
convincing people he didn't exist

1110
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:28,319
and the semantics involved is exactly

1111
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,520
that

1112
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,359
as long as you don't call it this it

1113
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,000
isn't this

1114
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:36,720
yeah um really to understand this

1115
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:38,000
particular phenomena you have to

1116
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,359
understand our ourselves our our makeup

1117
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,640
and that's something that i discussed in

1118
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:45,440
the book this idea that there are three

1119
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:46,960
parts of us

1120
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,640
um which is initially is the the soul

1121
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,880
the body and the spirit

1122
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:54,560
now point of death the spirit leaves

1123
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:55,599
it's gone

1124
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,280
forget trying to make contact with it

1125
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,880
it's gone

1126
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,800
and the majority of things that we are

1127
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,480
making contact with within the

1128
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:04,400
paranormal field

1129
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,520
is

1130
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:07,200
the soul

1131
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,400
um

1132
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,359
that is the thing that stays longest

1133
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,319
after after death it can stay for days

1134
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,880
to weeks sometimes in months

1135
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,640
and but they can't stay here

1136
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:20,560
indefinitely

1137
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:21,520
and

1138
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,160
were they retract back to as a place

1139
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,880
which which we see within the seance

1140
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:28,400
fields and everything else

1141
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:31,760
and it is a place of nothing

1142
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:33,119
absolute

1143
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,319
nothing

1144
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,160
there's no feeling there's no light

1145
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:38,640
there's there's nothing

1146
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:41,760
um and when we open the doorways

1147
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,400
trying to make contact we are opening

1148
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:46,720
the doorways to them

1149
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,119
and they are coming back

1150
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:51,760
so we are leaving the doors open they're

1151
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:52,720
literally

1152
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,359
chomping at them it's causing a serious

1153
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,119
serious problem

1154
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:58,880
just chomping at the bit for any sort of

1155
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:01,760
interaction whatsoever and it's often

1156
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:04,079
been at least in my research it's been

1157
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:05,119
noted

1158
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:05,920
that

1159
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,119
people at least the major minds in these

1160
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:10,720
attributable

1161
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:11,760
fields

1162
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,640
say be aware because when you try to

1163
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:16,560
open these doors it's much like anything

1164
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,839
the first things that are going to come

1165
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,920
through are the scorpions the insects

1166
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:21,119
the bugs

1167
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:22,400
the trash

1168
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,359
um

1169
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:25,760
yeah you're not going to when you roll

1170
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:28,640
out this red carpet you may not get the

1171
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,520
guest that you had in mind

1172
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:33,680
that is very very true and and you know

1173
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:36,240
the idea of opening a doorway to this

1174
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:37,440
other place

1175
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,240
um

1176
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,640
we may not get anything the first night

1177
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,040
but we have left the door open

1178
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:45,119
we don't close very rarely do people

1179
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,640
close the doors now

1180
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,280
and we leave the door open but that

1181
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:51,839
intrusion may not happen for the next

1182
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,720
week

1183
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:54,560
or the next month

1184
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:57,359
or the next several years

1185
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,119
and that can cause a real real problem

1186
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,520
um and and something really to consider

1187
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:05,599
again what we're looking at here is of

1188
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:08,560
an esoteric nature

1189
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:11,920
and uh and that in itself all what we

1190
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:15,599
what i was able to see through this and

1191
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,960
and really studying this is that all of

1192
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:20,400
the

1193
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,000
phenomena i should say

1194
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,839
is part of us

1195
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:27,760
it is you know whenever whenever we hear

1196
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,640
tell of people who have been abducted

1197
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:32,720
by these things coming through whatever

1198
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,599
whatever appearance they take

1199
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:37,200
um several

1200
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,880
days or weeks after it if it was a bad

1201
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:40,319
encounter

1202
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:43,839
that uh that they've started developing

1203
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,720
um

1204
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:46,480
psychic abilities and they see them as a

1205
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:47,599
gift

1206
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:49,520
and what i propose is that this is not a

1207
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,480
gift

1208
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:52,480
this is our

1209
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:56,079
shadow our and i i use a double term

1210
00:47:02,630 --> 00:46:58,960
there shadow soul and i see them as the

1211
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:02,640
same it is our shadow stepping forward

1212
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,280
to make sure that it does not

1213
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,200
for most times end up in the same

1214
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:09,280
situation again

1215
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:11,920
because it's the shadows responsibility

1216
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,079
to allow the body to live as long as

1217
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:16,560
possible for this for the spirit

1218
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:17,359
to

1219
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:26,000
keep us all working

1220
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:27,119
well

1221
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,240
and

1222
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,640
that

1223
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,000
its ability

1224
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,000
which includes remote viewing

1225
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,160
and and many other things

1226
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:39,200
is all symptoms or it's all signatures

1227
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:42,960
of the shadow it is all part of us

1228
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:45,440
and a well-balanced a well-balanced

1229
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:46,800
system

1230
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,359
of of of souls uh soul spirit and body

1231
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,640
is is

1232
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:54,720
is exceptionally powerful

1233
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,319
and in fact many of these things that

1234
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,559
come through the the

1235
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,440
the veal are afraid of someone who is

1236
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:03,920
exceptionally well balanced

1237
00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:06,319
and and that's noted all the way back

1238
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,319
and thousands of years it's known that

1239
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:11,119
if you have your balance you have that

1240
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:12,800
but whenever i was right whenever i was

1241
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,720
writing the the influence which which

1242
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:17,280
looked at this at these aspects of the

1243
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,280
shadow that were coming through and how

1244
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:22,079
they connected to to us

1245
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:23,680
and and what they were doing to us

1246
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:26,800
biologically to allow them to

1247
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:29,599
to to get a better grip to us

1248
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:33,839
and that in itself was was a huge

1249
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,359
eye-opener for me because there was a

1250
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,359
warning came at the beginning of that

1251
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:38,880
book for me

1252
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:43,200
don't become too bright or they see you

1253
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,680
and that that particular warning i have

1254
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:47,520
stayed true to

1255
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:48,480
because

1256
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,480
when and and i was part of of of

1257
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,559
this awareness of of the of an

1258
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,559
experiment that was that was conducted

1259
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,680
in california that went around the world

1260
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:01,520
repeatedly the questions were being

1261
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:03,839
asked time and time again

1262
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,880
to these things that were coming through

1263
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:08,640
how do you see us

1264
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:11,280
and time after time after time on

1265
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,880
continent after continent after

1266
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:13,920
continent

1267
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:17,200
how do you see us kept coming back as

1268
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:18,960
light

1269
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:21,680
so the warning pad true to me don't

1270
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:30,710
spooky and this leads us nicely into uh

1271
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,200
something that

1272
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:36,400
many have have encountered i i recently

1273
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,000
read an article about aleister crowley

1274
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,319
and and on his deathbed

1275
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,240
um he said something like oh no there's

1276
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:46,079
something wrong like this isn't going

1277
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:48,319
the way i expected it to

1278
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,280
uh those entities began entering rooms

1279
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:53,280
and the same is true of other

1280
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:56,880
uh of these um dark magicians snake a

1281
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:59,839
snake oil salesman etc and

1282
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,119
it's interesting that

1283
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,119
from from at least a

1284
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,280
modern standpoint

1285
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,400
that now

1286
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:10,559
we something that has been denied denied

1287
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,880
denied for years and years and years is

1288
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,200
almost now mainstream

1289
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:16,880
with the

1290
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:19,839
recent documentation of the

1291
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:20,960
tic tac

1292
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,079
we have the acceptance of

1293
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,040
you know atip and asap these government

1294
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,200
programs looking into things that are

1295
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:32,240
quite out of this world what does this

1296
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:34,880
is this is this just a heads up that the

1297
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,520
veil is becoming weaker or or how should

1298
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:39,599
we take this

1299
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,319
um the tic tac i believe is our

1300
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,599
technology

1301
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,160
um and it's run by air force the air

1302
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:48,079
force won't release the details the navy

1303
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:49,839
of course with it being a black budget

1304
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:51,920
the navy is not um

1305
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:54,640
is not open to that to not to that

1306
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,240
information you're not going to tell a

1307
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:58,160
pilot of a black budget

1308
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,119
and

1309
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,200
it was interesting that there was an

1310
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:02,720
article released

1311
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:05,839
um it was about two years ago

1312
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,200
and it spoke about how the the us navy

1313
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,520
had been retrofitted

1314
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:13,839
um before they were doused

1315
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:15,200
to track

1316
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,640
those very high speed targets

1317
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:20,160
and it was something that the entire

1318
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,440
fleet started acting as one unit

1319
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,200
and they could see over the horizon and

1320
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:27,119
things they got and track these things

1321
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,079
so the in effect the navy was going out

1322
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:32,480
already kitted out for this they just

1323
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:33,839
didn't know what they were going to

1324
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,400
encounter and but as i say the air force

1325
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:39,040
won't release that particular data

1326
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,240
um

1327
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:42,480
for obvious reasons

1328
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,800
now the the other things you know when

1329
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,720
when we start looking at at the other

1330
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:48,559
phenomena about

1331
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,599
about um crowley for crowley for

1332
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:54,160
instance you just mentioned him there um

1333
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:56,880
because if there was an interesting um

1334
00:52:03,109 --> 00:51:59,200
aspect that i came across

1335
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:03,119
um referring to to crowley about uh two

1336
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,559
years ago

1337
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:06,559
and in romania

1338
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:09,200
the witches there have this ability

1339
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,559
to affect someone's shadow

1340
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:14,800
through witchcraft

1341
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,000
and

1342
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:19,359
so that in itself lends some credence to

1343
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:23,119
the likes of of uh the voodoo dolls and

1344
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:24,800
things like that but what was

1345
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,520
interesting is that that well developed

1346
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,829
can

1347
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:35,200
um

1348
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,559
when they know that they're coming near

1349
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:38,720
the end of their life

1350
00:52:43,710 --> 00:52:42,000
they can't transfer their soul their

1351
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,720
shadow to

1352
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,359
another

1353
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:47,680
now that other tends to be

1354
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,040
it tends to be

1355
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:51,440
primarily it's it's more likely to be a

1356
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:52,640
boy

1357
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,280
that that unfortunately will will

1358
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,720
succumb to this

1359
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,040
and it would be someone under the age of

1360
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,520
10 years of age

1361
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:03,680
and as

1362
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:06,400
as um

1363
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:09,440
when this transfer happens it can be

1364
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:11,520
it could be an easy trigger such as

1365
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:14,640
someone to hand over a pencil or a pen

1366
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,240
and by that acceptance the deal is done

1367
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:20,640
and shortly after the the magician's

1368
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:21,680
death

1369
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:22,720
then

1370
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,040
what tends to happen is that that young

1371
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:27,040
person will then

1372
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:29,520
have the attachment of the of the shadow

1373
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:32,480
or the soul and that will start

1374
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,359
um

1375
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:36,640
the the shadows intrusion enter into

1376
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:39,599
that harmonic development that initially

1377
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:43,599
was very peaceful and and this shadow

1378
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:46,160
will start to to really

1379
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,440
imbue

1380
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:49,920
its wishes and wants because that's what

1381
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:52,960
shadow is primarily it is it deals with

1382
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:55,760
our wishes our wants our base root

1383
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:57,520
instincts

1384
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:00,720
and it also carries the knowledge of

1385
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,240
what we lived

1386
00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:04,319
the information that we gathered

1387
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:07,119
um during our lifetime is still held by

1388
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:09,920
that shadow when the shadow returns back

1389
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:12,079
if it returns back to where it comes

1390
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:13,040
from

1391
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:14,880
the entire unit

1392
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:15,599
has

1393
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,720
uh

1394
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,240
an access

1395
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:21,200
to all the knowledge

1396
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:22,400
some people will call it the global

1397
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:23,920
consciousness others will call it the

1398
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:27,359
akashic records it's all the same thing

1399
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:29,040
um but

1400
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,160
it was interesting that uh that when

1401
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,160
when this

1402
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,559
shadow starts to to make its it's it's

1403
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:39,359
it's itself known to the boy it will

1404
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:40,160
start

1405
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:45,040
uh um symptoms very very similar to

1406
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:47,200
schizophrenia and things like that

1407
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:49,680
uh very very sad but

1408
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:53,599
um getting back to aleister crowley um

1409
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,760
before he dies

1410
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:58,000
his ten-year-old son

1411
00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,079
came to visit

1412
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,839
shortly after the visit

1413
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,599
he started developing on aleister

1414
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:05,839
crowley's death he started developing

1415
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:08,960
symptoms of schizophrenia

1416
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:11,359
how very interesting

1417
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,640
and

1418
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:14,559
it's it's interesting that these kids

1419
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:16,880
would undergo this and kids kind of seem

1420
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:18,720
to always get the underhanded part of

1421
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:21,200
the deal i wanted to bring up

1422
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,119
kids that were possibly beaten

1423
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,960
threatened starved and removed from

1424
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:27,200
familiar surroundings when people ask if

1425
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,799
the government is aware of this at least

1426
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:30,400
the united states government there are

1427
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:33,119
many cases of this and one case that is

1428
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,839
detailed in your book is camp hero can

1429
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:37,680
we go into that for just a quick tidbit

1430
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,160
before we start wrapping things up

1431
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:42,960
yeah um what we tend to define is that

1432
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:45,440
within these negative anomalies we we

1433
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:48,400
find that that it was up to i think it

1434
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:50,960
was 70 or 75 percent

1435
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:52,799
on the initial search

1436
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:55,520
of military installations

1437
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:58,400
and and weapons development facilities

1438
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:01,280
were in negative magnetic anomalies

1439
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:02,880
these were also the places that we

1440
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,599
tended to find blood worship from our

1441
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:07,680
ancestors that occurred

1442
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:11,440
um and these are also the places seventy

1443
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,200
percent i believe

1444
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:15,520
of the top ten

1445
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:18,319
um suicide locations around the world

1446
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:20,799
are negative magnetic anomalies these

1447
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:24,319
places attract blood worship

1448
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:27,280
and and this is something that we were

1449
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:29,359
seeing and and this connection

1450
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,400
that we have

1451
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,960
with a lot of our

1452
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:35,040
military globally

1453
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:37,040
we tend to see this as well in fact we

1454
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:40,160
see establishments that were closed

1455
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:41,760
excuse me

1456
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,480
in positive magnetic anomalies

1457
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:46,400
and opened in negative magnetic

1458
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:48,480
anomalies

1459
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,599
and that was that was that was a

1460
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:54,240
shocking thing for us to really start to

1461
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:57,119
to uncover and this idea of of taking

1462
00:57:02,069 --> 00:56:59,280
the kids and uh

1463
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,079
and really putting them to the

1464
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,640
to the point of death to allow these

1465
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,720
things the ability

1466
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,000
to connect

1467
00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:11,040
to they broke down the the

1468
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:13,520
the child's resistance and allowed these

1469
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:15,839
things the ability to connect much

1470
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:20,400
easier um and uh and that of course um

1471
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:23,119
is is an absolutely god-awful thing to

1472
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,000
do

1473
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:26,720
um and and very very harrowing for for

1474
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:29,440
the people involved now

1475
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:31,040
you know it's something before we go

1476
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,400
that that

1477
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:34,480
when we look at this idea of our fight

1478
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,520
or flight

1479
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,359
being able to be switched off by the use

1480
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:39,119
of refined sugar

1481
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:40,240
and

1482
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:43,440
we have times in the calendar

1483
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:44,480
where

1484
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:47,440
the the doorways between these places

1485
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,760
become exceptionally thin

1486
00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:51,839
and at these particular times such as

1487
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:53,599
salon um

1488
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:56,240
in in the irish calendar or halloween as

1489
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,079
you may know it there in the states

1490
00:58:04,150 --> 00:57:59,839
um

1491
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:07,109
they are they are the ones that

1492
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:08,640
that can detect these things coming

1493
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,040
through we feed our children copious

1494
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:13,200
amounts of candy

1495
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,799
refined sugar blinds our children

1496
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:18,400
coincidence

1497
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:24,160
man oh man it's so true and in

1498
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,839
conclusion i think that this book is

1499
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:27,839
something everybody needs to have on the

1500
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,000
shelf especially when you go into

1501
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:32,160
i mean we've gone into a lot but you go

1502
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,119
into so much more um the influence of

1503
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:37,760
paranormal abilities and western held

1504
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,240
perspectives the list goes on and on can

1505
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:41,920
you tell people where they can purchase

1506
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:43,520
the book how they can support you and

1507
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:46,960
keep up with your work uh moving forward

1508
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:49,680
sure um they can they can they can

1509
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:51,920
purchase the book from flying disc press

1510
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:53,760
on amazon

1511
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:56,480
and they can also pop over to

1512
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:59,920
my facebook um and uh and catch up with

1513
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:01,440
me there directly

1514
00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:04,880
um or they can nip over to my my website

1515
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,280
at charmstealer.com if they wish to

1516
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,040
avail themselves of a copy of the

1517
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,440
influence and see how the shadow can

1518
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:13,359
manipulate us

1519
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:15,680
so cool such a good book and it's so

1520
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,559
good to talk to you again um i i don't

1521
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:20,480
know what the future will hold things

1522
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:22,960
are so crazy up in the air but hopefully

1523
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:24,400
time will tell hopefully we have an

1524
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,960
investigation somewhere somehow but uh

1525
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,640
indeed ryan i look forward to it i

1526
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:30,720
really do i really appreciate you coming

1527
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:32,240
on and discussing this with our

1528
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:34,160
listeners thank you barry and i hope to

1529
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:35,359
talk to you soon

1530
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:36,799
keep safe

1531
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,640
man oh man breaking it down the way

1532
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,319
nobody else can

1533
00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:42,960
barry fitzgerald coming to us uh from

1534
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,839
across the pond with a lot of in-depth

1535
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:47,359
knowledge

1536
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,640
about these messengers and um you know

1537
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,720
you often hear don't kill the messenger

1538
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,240
well we don't know

1539
00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:56,640
where these messages are coming from are

1540
01:00:02,230 --> 00:59:59,599
these messengers of deception as

1541
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:02,240
dr jacques vallee has noted i think

1542
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,400
barry fitzgerald has really tied a lot

1543
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:06,079
of dots together in this book it's a

1544
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,319
book everybody should really uh

1545
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,559
just check out it's available both on

1546
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:12,319
kindle and

1547
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,920
regular book form and you can find it uh

1548
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,160
on amazon or at flyingdiskpress

1549
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,000
definitely check it out and until next

1550
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,720
time keep your eyes to the skies feed on

1551
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:25,040
the ground but don't forget to take a

1552
01:00:34,350 --> 01:00:26,839
look

1553
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:49,760
[Music]

1554
01:00:59,920 --> 01:00:56,950
machine third eye feeling like an